Comments on: Storing your stuff online is not cloud computing

By: Trin

Trin — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:53:13 +0000

Yan I get your point.
It’s all confusing.
Uploading to a site is just basic web storage or SAAS.
True cloud computing is the ability to access said photos from anywhere and any device with/or without internet access!
This technology isn’t really alive yet,but it’s close!
We need internet at all times to access said clouds,thus it is not completely free-form.
Web OS is almost close. Also you are right. Gmail is the real cloud as is Google Docs.
So to speak.
But saving to these is just ’saving to the cloud’.
Running the network itself is the ‘accessing the cloud’.

Example of true clouding for those still like huh?:

I can access my EYEOS or Gmail account from my PC,cell,Nokia 810,college campus,familes house computer,neighbors house,your house,ect.
It runs from any platform and anytime and anywhere.
The technology thus in itself is ‘accessing the cloud’.

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By: frederic sidler

frederic sidler — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:05:38 +0000

cloud computing is not for end users. it is intended for developers and business logic.

cloud computing impacts the end users as companies pay what they use and bill the consumer the right price

company that are not going this way will continue to waste resources and energy and will be surpassed by their concurrent

running a service that is located in a particular area on the planet can take advantage of cloud computing, because it needs to scale regarding the load during the day

for that, your cloud computing service should be able to charge at an hour level

By: Yan

Yan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:07:33 +0000

@Solmn, Thanks for your very thinly veiled spam.

@Igor

All I’m saying here is that you don’t say you’re using nuclear power when you’re using your lightbulb at home if your electricity comes from a nuclear power plant. Even if it’s true, it misses the point. Here are two statements

1. “I call the amazon EC2 api to dynamically provision resources – I am using cloud computing”

2. “I just uploaded my pics from my camera to the web. Thank goodness for cloud computing”

Do you see how statement #2 completely misses the point of what cloud computing is. Even if it’s true that google docs is built on top of cloud infrastructure. People who say #2 by and large do not understand what cloud computing actually means. They are just latching on to a buzzword and misapplying it. This causes the word to actually become diluted and start to mean SaaS. We already have a word for SaaS so I am trying to show the difference between SaaS an cloud computing. In the same way as there is a difference between electricity and a nuclear power plant. By the way, #2 is a direct paraphrase of something I heard on twitter.

By: Igor

Igor — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:41:45 +0000

(that “now” should have been a “not” in my previous comment)

“they are not cloud computing. Even if they’re built on top of cloud infrastructure”

See, I disagree. I’d argue that if something is built on cloud infrastructure, then it’s cloud computing. Can you clarify the distinction?

Ie. *if* google docs is built on top of storage on demand, computation on demand infrastructure – then it’s build on cloud infrastructure and it’s users are partaking of cloud computing..

That said, the availability of cloud infrastructure to Joe developer is definitely a new trend.

By: Solmn

Solmn — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:32:25 +0000

I am approaching the cloud from the end-user perspective, where its all foggy up there, and all that matters is how easy it is to interact with my own personal data on the smallest footprint of a device.
I’m an anticipated fan of the CherryPal C100, which is being touted as a cloud computer. The CherryPal™ C100 desktop is about the size of a paperback book with the performance you would expect from a full-size desktop computer. It has Freescale’s triple-core mobileGT processor for multimedia performance and feature-rich user interfaces, while only consuming as much power as a clock radio. CherryPal uses 80 percent fewer components than a traditional PC, and because it has no moving parts, it operates without making a sound and will last 10 years or more. I am excited about how the CherryPal can bridge barriers to people who have not had access to computers or the internet because of money, fear, education or other challenges. I will be commenting on my experience of using it on my blog as soon as I get my own CherryPal C100! You can use CODE CPP206 to get your own CherryPal for $10 less than purchase price. CherryPal for Everyone at http://cherrypal.blogspot.com

By: Yan

Yan — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:09:59 +0000

What I’m saying is that there is a significant change in the industry occurring and it is called ‘cloud computing’. Storing your stuff online is not a new thing. I’m not saying google is not innovative and gmail and gdocs are awesome things, no doubt. But they are not cloud computing. Even if they’re built on top of cloud infrastructure (which ,afaik, they are not).

The point I’m bringing up here is that some people seem to confuse SaaS and cloud computing. They are not the same thing even if one can be built on top of the other.

By: Igor

Igor — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:02:02 +0000

Aren’t you basically saying that if you’re building on top of it, then it’s “cloud computing”, but if you’re using a product built on top of it, then it’s now “cloud computing”?

Lets say one of these startups uses cloud computing to quickly launch a terribly popular web app. Are users of the app not using cloud computing?